Mrs. Fiorini

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  Powerless

  by cameo-d in

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  2. bible

  jeremiah 10:23.

  23 lord, i know that a man doesn't control his own life.

  he doesn't direct his own steps.. .

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Those words were written thousands of years ago by someone from a very different culture and way of thinking than we are used to. Previous societies (and a few current ones) saw their lives as much more subject to fate than we modern Westerners do. The idea that we can control our own destiny is relatively modern and would not have occurred to the writer of that scripture.
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  An Elder Friend is Attending a School Right Now - What School is It?

  by Seeker4 in

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  2. friends

  i just heard that an elder friend, not a po, is attending some sort of training.

  does anyone know what school is going on right now?.

  i also just heard that there will be a circuit overseer school of some sort this year.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  ATJ said, "Are they consolidating as much as they can before they spring a major adjustment in a dogma that could cause many contributing members to leave?"

  I think this is a good question to ask. They know that 2014 is just 5 short years away. Past instances of followers leaving over false prophesies can't be far from their minds. They also must be suffering, as other religions are, from the current economic crisis. It seems to me that they are trying to get their financial ducks in a row in anticipation of a serious drop in income.
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  I got invited to the KH for the Traveling Circuit Overseer's talk

  by lavendar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first let me say, i've never been a jw and never will become one.

  i'd rather stick needles in my eyes.

  my son has invited me to his kh to hear the co's talk.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  I agree with the posters who suggested that you maintain a good rapport with your son and not view the situation as adversarial. However, I don't think that means you can't help your son to find his way out of the cult sooner than later.

  I've mentioned it on this site before. But in case you missed it, a very good book on the subject of helping loved ones out of a cult is Steven Hassan's "Releasing the Bonds: Helping People to Think for Themselves." He, too, recommends building rapport and avoiding an adversarial approach.

  I thought the book was very insightful and filled with good suggestions that can be used with members of any cult, including JWs which are specifically mentioned. Whether your son eventually leaves the WT or not, the suggestions in the book will not harm your relationship with him.

  If you can't find it elsewhere, you can order it from the Free Minds website.
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  And I thought Jw's were strange.......

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.svetoch.org/en/calling_all_people_for_immortality/calling_all_people_for_immortality_2.html.

  wow!.

  jeff.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  There's no shortage of cults and wacko religions is there?
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  Spirituality WT style: it's all business

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  isn't it funny to think the wt claims to have anything to do with spirituality?

  i mean, here is a business that measures how "spiritual" you are by the number of hours you spend each month serving the corporation.

  its most respected "spiritual" leaders have business titles like "circuit overseers" and "district overseers".

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  I didn't see it when I was in, because that was all I knew. But after leaving the org and attending other churches, it became clear to me that there is very little real spirituality in the WT.

  JWs measure their spiritual life by how well they are living up to WT ideals and how enthusiastic they are about doing so. Those who have an authentic spirituality have it in spite of the WT, not because of it. And what they have is extremely limited. I really had no idea of the possibilities until I left.

  A cult will never allow their followers to pursue an authentic spiritual path because they are too busy using them for all they can get out of them. They don't trust their followers to take that journey, and if they did, it would be a matter of time before they left the cult anyway.
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  Bank lays off 450 then throws a Million dollar party!

  by sammielee24 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  bailout bank blows millions partying in l.a.. posted feb 24th 2009 1:18pm by tmz staff.

  a bank that received $1.6 billion in bailout money just spent a fortune last week in l.a. hosting a series of lavish parties and concerts with famous singers ... and tmz cameras caught it all.. .

  northern trust, a chicago-based bank, sponsored the northern trust open at the riviera country club in l.a. we're told northern trust paid millions to sponsor the pga event which ended sunday, but what happenedoffthe golf course is even more shocking.. .

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  I know we all learned great math skills in school. I just can't figure out why our economy's such a mess!
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  My Resignation Letter

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i never did post this here.

  i am posting it now for posterity's sake.

  its been a few years, but, its good food for thought.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Thanks for sharing. I'm glad you were in a position to be able to say it to those who needed to hear it. Most of us are neither noticed nor missed by the GB.
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  Well...well...well. Look what you've done to this place!

  by journey-on in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  been awhile since i participated.

  like what you've done to the place, simon.

  seems a bit tamer than the old board though.. need the board's input on a sociology question and wonder if some of you might respond.. i can't tell you how many conversations i have had with witnesses and ex-witnesses where the subject doesn't inevitably come up about who is still 'in' and who has 'fallen away'.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  I am the oldest of 4 children and the only one out so far.
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  Was There Any Thread or Any Poster That Really Got You Thinking?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a poster named jt that i'd read and relate to.

  he was very experienced and i very much respected his point of view.

  he left all the praise and authority he had because he simply knew it was all a crock.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  Too many to mention, but two who stand out to me are Blondie and Snakes in the Tower. I am always glad to hear from those who are still in, especially elders, because they are able to keep me up with the latest.

  Also, Oompa and Yknot are always a pleasure to read.
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  untitled

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just been looking at the news regarding the bushfires in victoria (aus.

  ) and the generosity of people is astounding.money in the millions of dollars has been donated with many more programs and benefits still underway.small businesses have donated their goods and services at no cost to the recipients,and individuals have poured in releif beyond beleif to the unfortunate victims.the bulk, at this time is probably going to the bushfire victims ,but we also now have victims of floods in the northern nsw and parts of qld.who also require aid and which is being addressed.

  my point here is these people who give out of their generosity is not governed by their allegiance to a certain creed or beleif system,they give indiscrimanately to all in need ,regardless of political or religous persuasion.

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  Mrs. Fiorini

  I agree. I have been disgusted at the WT's attempt to capitalize on tragedy. They encourage their followers to donate, but make the check for "the worldwide work" so it can be used any way they want.